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Just watched 12th episode of "Traumend", and my brain is full of fuck.
Why the shit all killed dolls went back to live EXCEPT Souseiseki and Hina? Ok, Hina had no longer her ring, but why Souseiseki...? Maybe I didn't watch carefully but I really don't see any reason why these two dolls couldn't be revived as the rest of Rozen Maidens. If that was that their Rosas Misticas have gone or was stollen by Lapras, why exactly these ones were?
And why this fuckin' rabbit was holding their Rosas Misticas in first place?

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Because Gin fucked over Souseiseki, Gin is a real rozen maiden, therefore this was "okay" in the alice game

Bara is a fake, therefore not a rozen maiden, meaning they could be be brought back legitimately so to speak, since they werent killed by a rozen maiden, since bara is not eligible in the alice game

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>> No.4236   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>4235
Ok that explains quite well why these dolls didn't go back, although if Rozen repaired the rest of them, that means he's awesome enough to do so with Souseiseki and Hinaichigo. He created them after all, he is superwizard and has power to bring them to life again, besides he told Shinku that Alice Game is not the only way to become Alice. Why then he didn't "cancel" kills at Souseiseki and Hina? He didn't allow the game to stop at all, but also said it's not really necesaary. LOL.
But why then their Rosas Misticas were hold by this damned rabbit? It seemd like he's stolen them or sth.

>> No.4285   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>4236
Если ты помнишь, Шинку в конце говорит, что ей надо "кое-что" сделать. Очевидно, этим "кое-что" и был визит к Лапласу и отбирание у него Розы Мистики Соусейсеки и Хины. В конце концов, ему они тоже на пенис не свалились ни одним местом.

bear-fucking Russian Rozenfaggot

>> No.4286   [Delete]   [Edit]

Oh, those Russians...

>> No.4287   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>4286
What did he said?

>> No.4288   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>4287
Im not sure 'bout some terms like "кое-что" (something?), "отбирание" or "ему они тоже на пенис не свалились ни одним местом", but "Шинку" is a Shinku, "Лапласу" looks like "to Laplas" and "Розы Мистики Соусейсеки и Хины" is a Russian sort of "Souseiseki and Hina's Rosas Misticas".
Looks like this tovarisch means Shinku's final frase 'bout she "may to do something".

Erm... kick Kira & rabbit's assholes and grab Rosas?.. Wow.

>> No.4289   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>4285
If I understood well:
'If you remember, Shinku told in the end that "something must be done". Of course, "something" was meeting Lapras and getting back Souseiseki's and Hina's Rosas Misticas.'
But the last sentence makes no sence for me, but it seems to not answer any asked by me (OP here) questions. And I'm not sure that the rest is correct, I was learning russian in primary school, so it was quite long time ago. Correct my translation if I'm wrong.
Well, it seems that I won't get any answers. Pity. It just looks like Rozen is sure that making his dolls killing each other is still a good idea, if he don't repair these killed "legal way" in Alice Game. What the fuck is wrong with him, if he says as well that Alice Game is not only way to become Alice?

>> No.4290   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>4289

>Lapras

I laughed so hard but for some reason I'm not even surprised.

>> No.4291   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>4290
Oh, you.
I call him "Lapras" coz it's easier for me to spell it in my native language. And somehow I wrote it in my post. ;P

>> No.4301   [Delete]   [Edit]

i haven't watched for a while, but my interpretation is that the only known way of winning the Alice Game is for one Rozen Maiden to kill/defeat the others. Shinku beat Hina, but was generous to provide her with some life force and not kill her. This was only a temporary solution, and she wound up dying anyways.

Boku was killed by Suigintou. She, like Shinku was a real Rozen Maiden.

However, all the others were killed by Bara. As a fake, her kills didn't count in the Alice game, so when the Rozen Maidens came to life, only those who lost legitimately remained dead.

Think of it as a basketball game (Alice Game.) If some guy in the audience (Bara) randomly ran out to the court, grabbed the ball, and threw it in a hoop, does that mean either team gains a point, even if this random guy managed to score one according to the rules of the game?

No, because he is not a player, so his actions don't count.

>> No.4302   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>4301
Hell, I knew that already. But one thing that I don't get is why then Rozen said that Alice Game is not only way to become Alice. "You can kill all of your sisters to become a perfect girl - but of course you don't have to, there is another way. And no, I won't bring to life these of your sisters who were killed in the process by you or another Rozen Maiden. I hope you still love your Father, Shinku".

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>>4302
Father revives the remaining real maidens. He tells Shinku that reviving Hina and Boku is her responsibility, since they were considerably under her care when they were killed/defeated. Although, this may not apply to Souseiseki, as she wasn't exactly under Shinku's care, but did frequently visit their house.

After Rozen returned the dolls to life, he either gave or Laplace/Laprace stole Hinaichigo and Soseiseki's rosa mystica and carried them into the N-field, where he is seen dancing with Kirakishou, who hasn't been seen in the anime as of yet.

All this was probably going to be some of the plot bases for a season 3, since the ending was a bit of a cliff-hanger; but sadly season 3 has not come out (may never ;_;) to answer all these precious, precious questions...

I hope that answered the rest of your questions.

>> No.4337   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>4333
Yeah, a bit, though I still do not understand why he's doing such things to his own creations who love him and who are loved by him too. I mean, he could tell them before that they don't necessarily have to kill each other, right? Well, Rozen is obviously the most unclear personality in entire show, and I would even say "ever", cause I really can't imagine how possibly someone who really loves his own "daughters" could make them killing each other only to see one perfect girl. Well, the fact that he's capable of doing such a thing don;t necessarily mean that he must do it, though... ah, well, maybe he's just fucking retarded. One way or another, we couldn't find out that particular thing.
Thanks for discussion, anons.

>> No.4338   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>4337
unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out

>> No.4347   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>4338

>Rozen is an asshole and a faggot

fixed that for you bro



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