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245553 No.1323   [Delete]   [Edit

So conversation has been whirling about on IRC about how to improve Desuchan. Whether or not you think that the quality of the site has been getting better or worse lately, all of us can probably agree that we could handle more traffic (which, hopefully, would translate to more donations/ad revenue, etc--but that's secondary to the point).

All of us have good ideas for boards to add or remove (we've gone over that thread before-->>71), and we have /sandbox/ to try out new ideas. This thread is for more than just board suggestions though; what we're wondering, more generally, is: how can we make Desuchan a more attractive site, and a worthy alternative to the major/minor *chans out there (4chan, 7chan, 420chan, 2chan, whatever else)?

Questions to ask:

  • Who makes up our current userbase? What sort of niches/groups should we be targeting?
  • What are our current offerings (boards, irc, radio/tv) providing to our userbase? Are there ways we could improve and develop these offerings to better meet the needs of our userbase?
  • What are our strengths as an online community? How can we capitalize on them? What are our weaknesses? How can we compensate for or get past them?

Last edited 10/04/13(Tue)20:29.

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>> No.1450   [Delete]   [Edit]
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IDEA TIME.

Try implementing this!

Pic related!

The pic is of 7chan's multi-pic in one post feature. the max is 5 as far as I can tell.

>> No.1451   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1450
YES.

>> No.1452   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1450
Fuck no! Multi-image posting clutters up the page and looks amateurish and shitty.

>> No.1453   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1452
It DOES look shitty.

But Pixiv's way of doing it DOESN'T, in that it just shows them all in a stack, and clicking the link opens them all on one page. If that is problematic, there should be a "show/hide multiple images" thing

>> No.1454   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1451
>>1453

I do believe we have a plan here gent's.

>> No.1460   [Delete]   [Edit]
  1. Add a 3D MUD, let everyone build, see what sort of weird shit you get.
  2. Delete all the content here, make rules against all of it, ban all the users, and relaunch the site as a destination for over-50 social conservatives.

So can we get that necrophilia board that Hornet was talking about?

I see one possible objection to having a 3D mud being that most people wouldn't know how to build models. Well, you can make it work like Legos. GRIMDARK Legos!

Anybody can stack rectangles together. They start with the bigger ones and move to the smaller ones and before they know it, they are ahtist.

One way to not have the site carry is to not make off-site backups on a regular basis.
Content draws users, who post more content.
If backups are two months behind, the shitheads can get their way.
Merely a reminder.

Last edited 10/05/09(Sun)19:24.

>> No.1474   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1460

NO

And I mean that in so many ways.

>> No.1479   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1460
I'm all for a better backup policy.

>> No.1494   [Delete]   [Edit]

I'd suggest to include in page titles what page of a board you are on.
At the moment, all of the pages in a board have the same title, so all of the windows from that board in your browser's windows menu also have the same title.

E.g.
/bananas/ - Kirakishou - page 1
/bananas/ - #980
/bananas/ - #46 - Kira Doll Joints

And also it would be nice to have an image-matching feature like the one iqdb.org provides, so you can check if a given Kira picture has already been uploaded without having to go through all the threads.

>> No.1512   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1494

usually the duplicate checker does that for us, but your other suggestion sounds cool

>> No.1513   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1512

The thing is, I did go through the whole board and there are a lot of uncaught duplicates.

Checksums like MD5 are designed to produce different results if there is even a minor alteration to the file, to detect corruption or tampering.

With images, you end up with a lot of duplicates that are visually very similar or indistinguishable, because of people resizing the images, compressing them at lower jpeg qualities to save space, or just resaving them at the same settings by accident.
Even with a lossless encoding like PNG, there is no guarantee that the resulting disk file will be the same, due to variations in the encoding process.

It takes a long time to check a candidate image manually against every image in the board. iqdb's check would be useful, since it does a good job of picking out images which have been resized and recompressed.

Last edited 10/06/04(Fri)22:47.

>> No.1514   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1513

I know nothing of the library IQDB uses other than that it seems to be written in PHP. There is an Image::Compare library for Perl, though.

Implementing it to compare all of the images referenced in a board's database could slow down posting. I have seen such a system implemented at Wakachan long ago, but it was apt to block edits of posted images. Furthermore, I foresee a situation in which a low-quality image is posted, but a higher-quality image is desired but cannot be posted (though this could be partially averted programmatically).

Also, when you say page titles in >>1494, do you mean the literal title that shows up in the titlebar, the header at the top of the page, or both?

Last edited 10/06/06(Sun)07:11.

>> No.1515   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1514

I had in mind more of a voluntary system where people could check a particular image against a board to see if it had already been upped.

I meant the title that shows up in the title bar, so that you can easily tell which one of several minimized windows is the thread you want, or pick it out of the browser's window menu instead of digging through all the open windows.

Last edited 10/06/06(Sun)12:57.

>> No.1517   [Delete]   [Edit]

What about a FAQ?

Q. What does 'sage' mean?
A. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sage

Q. What does 'noko' mean?
A. If you put 'noko' in the Link field when replying to a thread, you will be returned to the thread afterwards rather than to the top page of the board. This speeds things up when dumping a bunch of images to a single thread.

Q. What are those funny letters after peoples' names?
A. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripcode

Q. Where can I get Tripcode Explorer?
A. >>>/media/>>1774

Q. How do you use bold text and italics in posts?
A. *this will be converted to italic text*
**this will be converted to bold text**
See http://wakaba.c3.cx/docs/docs.html#WakabaMark for other formatting options.

Q. What does GAR mean?
A. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=GAR

Q. Where can I get a program for auto-dumping images to a thread?
A. >>>/media/>>1871 - Desuchan Directory Dumper 2.0 (Windows)

Q. "Is there something for mass-dl'ing images in a thread?"
A. "If you have FireFox get DownThemAll plugin: http://www.downthemall.net/ "

Q. How do I search the site?
A. For the moment, go to Google and try using site:desuchan.net plus your query.

See also http://wakaba.c3.cx/docs/docs.html .

Last edited 10/06/06(Sun)14:39.

>> No.1526   [Delete]   [Edit]

Maybe this has been brought up before, but /md/ seems a little misleading.

It's titled "Manga/Doujinshi" so you'd think you can post any manga there, but it's under the RM boards, so I'm assuming it's strictly RM-related manga then.

>> No.1527   [Delete]   [Edit]
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New content is what we need
The site is fine, the problem is that nobodys getting interest or showing up to see that the site is nice.
We need content that can be posted on other sites
There are a ton of memes, both 4chan and nico nico douga that do not have any desu, meaning plenty of shooping and pitch shifting oppurtunities that will attract new users
also, YES, new users will probably be faggy and stupid, we just have to fix them into shape (this is what happened with me)
We need new content to show up on other imageboards (yes, 4chan too, preferebly not /b/, but thats how i got here), and youtube and nico nico douga
Problem is, my shoop skills only go so far, we need drawfags to help with this kindof stuff

Also the ammount of users is a problem. When i was talking to a friend of mine who is a channer about desuchanner, he joked how he might visit it it had more than 3 posters, i managed to get him to agree that there are 10 posters on desuchan. once we have some new people, people who already know about desuchan might show up if they hear there are people

>> No.1528   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1527

>We need content that can be posted on other sites
>There are a ton of memes

No need to add more. Not trying to be rude or anything, but if you're going to be attracting other uses through memes, then there's no way you're going to end up with a good community.

>we just have to fix them into shape

If you pull people from shitville, banning and other forms of punishment won't work. If you're going to attract more users, it's best to be selective from which place you're going to pull them from.

>Also the amount of users is a problem.

tl;dr this whole thread.

>New content is what we need

I'm going to (for the Xth time) repeat this: Desuchan's fairly unique radio station and tv channels make for an interesting feature, if we had a board for these it might expand even more, and this would be one more entry point for new users.

>> No.1529   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1527

>also, YES, new users will probably be faggy and stupid, we just have to fix them into shape (this is what happened with me)

Ahahahahahahaha

>> No.1535   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1528
10/18 people discovered desuchan through the meme / various chans
http://www.desuchan.net/ro/res/3495.html#3701

We need to stop being so stuck up and self rightous about how great of a community we are and welcome anybody, and we can ban the occasional troll that shows up and let the good users show up alongside them
plus we need more people who are here because of desu and rozen maiden itself imo

1.Draw people's attention by them seeing Desu Desu Desu elsewhere
2.They look around and see a large lack of trolls or spam and say hey, this is a pretty cool site
3.They begin to show up regularaly, and things like irc, tv, and radio keep them coming back and staying

We are missing step one, desuchan is great, but if its not seen elsewhere nobody will be curious and come take a look

Shitville is actually a good place to get people from, because there are a lot of good people lurking shitville looking for notshitville

>> No.1536   [Delete]   [Edit]

Maybe an AGIF which is like an infomercial?

"Some chans are pretty plain vanilla. But Desuchan is full of creepy perverts! And we're always looking for a few more creepy perverts.

We've got girls who fap to amputees, boys who fap to penis vore porn, necrophiles, pedophiles, and oh, that's just the beginning!

Maybe you'd like to join us in our /ot/, where right now the regulars are discussing where they sell crack and when they're going to commit suicide.

Or maybe you'd like to sample our sumptuous collection of porno flashes.

It's kind of like an ice cream - we swirl together a little bit of Fapchan, a little bit of Gurochan and a little bit of /b/.

Let's interview an average Desuchanner..." (cue the boy who was raised by wild pigs and reeducated into a girl.)

Last edited 10/06/23(Wed)00:16.

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>>1536
I officially like you now.

>> No.1538   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1536

>we swirl together a little bit of Fapchan, a little bit of Gurochan and a little bit of /b/.

And a planet sized dash of Desu Desu Desu for perfection

>> No.1541   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1537

Thanks. : )

>>1538

"Desu makes the world go round. At the nano scale, everything is made out of nano desu."

...also, using the last 50 posts feature... if the idea is to let people browse huge threads without freezing their browser on a slow system, then there ought to be one page for every 50 posts of the thread, e.g.

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>> No.1561   [Delete]   [Edit]

We need moar links, I only found this place through a small link on ED

>> No.1566   [Delete]   [Edit]

Everyone needs to stop lurking >:(

>> No.1578   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1566
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
Get someone to put it on news or something

"Stop Lurking"
Like that

>> No.1584   [Delete]   [Edit]

I also think that irc chat is taking away from the boards. Everyone goes immediately there to talk about random things and barely look at the boards, resulting in less posts

>> No.1585   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1584
Seconding this.

We need people to be more active on the boards instead of IRC.

>> No.1586   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1584
Thirding this, tbh, disband the irc channel, maybe just make them on occasion for shit like planning touhou turnys and maybe a channel for #tv, but get rid of #desuchan (;_;)

>> No.1587   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1586
You know that this suggestion is asinine and has zero chance of happening, right? This is like trying to fix a leak in the ceiling with a band-aid. Also remember that it would be very easy to make a replacement channel for the IRC-using desuchan people - very little to no benefit to site activity would be gained and massive drama would be involved in the process.

Last edited 10/08/09(Mon)19:56.

>> No.1595   [Delete]   [Edit]

I don't use your IRCs

~_^)b

edit: I plan on it, though, once I finally have a stable living condition complete with internet. I also plan on working towards mod status for /tr/. The place could use a good maid.

Last edited 10/08/22(Sun)07:07.

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the script which lets you read quotes posts (as seen on http://boards.fightingamphibians.org/ )

also a board for cats

>> No.1611   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1609

> the script which lets you read quotes posts

Give me a bit. I should have a new alpha release of Wakaba Extension that does that up eventually.

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oops quoted*

>>1611

thanks :D

>> No.1623   [Delete]   [Edit]

I've been visiting desuchan since mid 2007 on and off-- I'm not quite a regular but I've been following the site and posting silently on occasion. While this thread may not be watched, I have noticed a few things that I'd like to share.

I think the most important thing to realize is that desuchan will never be as big as it once was back in its peak. There's not much that can be done about this; even S3 wouldn't bring it back to its old level-- unless someone wants to revive the practice of spamming desu everywhere, of course.

Boards need to be cut. Unless you are a behemoth like 4chan that will garner traffic irregardless of how many boards are in place, a *chan should not be overly saturated with boards, eg: iichan. The less boards there are, the more the traffic can be condensed; the more condensed the traffic is, the more active the boards appear to be. Having the illusion of "more traffic" compounded with having a more condensed list of boards attracts new posters and brings out lurkers. Just skimming through the list, I see many dead boards that have topics that could fit elsewhere: /peach/, /md/, /c/, /yan/, /pro/, /gar/, and /vic/ among others. It's nice and all that there is a /sandbox/ to try new board ideas, but it's important to trim what there is currently before adding anything else.

For the record, consolidating the maiden boards into a singular board is a horrible idea-- as said, they are part of the site's identity. On the same page, a Peach-Pit board isn't as much (unless you really want a Shugo Chara discussion that badly).

Get rid of "srs shit yoYou guys DO remember we have a /sandbox/?!?! RIGHT?????srs shit yo
Donate over9000 today!". Keep that type of stuff on the front page.

Update the front page news more frequently. It's not only shows that desuchan is active, but it also gives the regular users some affirmation that the site is still alive with progress.

Add a FAQs, and perhaps a short history (not that horrid one on ED). Desuchan has taken a few interesting twists and turns and has played the part as one of the bigger *chans. I believe it would benefit new users to have these.

...and that's all! It's been fun visiting this board on and off for the past few years, and I hope it stays alive.

>> No.1624   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1623
well-though out, and pertinent.
I support all these ideas.

>> No.1625   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1623 here. Forgot something.

Remove desuchan from all of those topsites listings-- this isn't 1999, and that's probably the area where the lowest-level users will be pulled in. Maybe I'm overstepping here, but I feel that desuchan is both more historically important (lol) and classier than to be listed amongst high-class sites like "ichan" and "The Pussy Channel". Certainly there are better ways to ramp activity here than that.

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Well spoken!

>> No.1935   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1626

>> No.1978   [Delete]   [Edit]

Remove link to /loli/ from the frame index.
Ez improvement.

>> No.1982   [Delete]   [Edit]

I want to use desuchan more, but it is in serious need of less boards. Most of the boards on here have very little traffic. Maybe you could combine some or add to what's allowed on them?

For example...
Can't Rozen Maiden stuff be combined on one board? Idk.
Maybe the lolita board could include cosplay and Jfashion as well? Like /cgl/?
Maybe dolls and figurines could be combined?

>> No.1984   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1982

Definately agree. This amount of boards is almost 4chan-tier. We should have less of them. On-topic discussion is ensured while centralizing the posters, thus having a more active community. Having 38 boards while looking for new posts is overkill.

>> No.1985   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1982
>>1984
No.

>> No.1986   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1985

You need not to elaborate, I can guess why you disagree. Still, the ultimate choice is this: Should desuchan become a lively imageboard or remain a museum?

>> No.1989   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1986
It's pointless because there wouldn't be any difference. It would make it seem like there's mre activity, but it'd really just be the same people who have stayed here.

And drawing a too many new users is never a good thing for any community.

>> No.1993   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1982
What's happened to /loli/?

>> No.1994   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1993
It was removed because of location of hosting company - they think cartoons hurt kids. Idiots cant even tell fantasy from reality.

>> No.1995   [Delete]   [Edit]

>>1994
As long as you don't remove the hentai board, it's all gud.

>> No.2009   [Delete]   [Edit]

I have some suggestions.

  • Can the desuchan menu change theme like the board pages? It's strange to have the board with the Tomorrow black theme and the menu in Burichan.
  • Also since the /loli/ board is deleted, you should remove it from the menu.
  • Lastly, the image source site is umprotected. My dumb browser keep asking me if I should proceed and it's annoying. Why is this happening?
  • Also when I try to open an image 99% of times it returns a 503 error, even if the image is there. I have to reload it until it appears. Why?

Thanks in advance for listening to my babbling.

>> No.2010   [Delete]   [Edit]

I have some suggestions.

  • Can the desuchan menu change theme like the board pages? It's strange to have the board with the Tomorrow black theme and the menu in Burichan.
  • Since the /loli/ board is deleted, you should remove it from the menu.
  • The image source site is ''not secure''. My dumb browser keep asking me if I should proceed and it's annoying. Why is this happening?
  • When I try to open an image 99% of times it returns a 503 error, even if the image is there. I have to reload it until it appears. Why?
  • Is the anti-spam Boku question been disabled? I posted this without answering it and it went through without problems. Maybe there is a bug or something.
  • Finally, posting takes a lot of time. The server takes minutes to respond. Is that normal?

Thanks in advance for listening to my babbling.
Also ignore the post above. I posted it by mistake and now I can't delete it.

Last edited 16/07/28(Thu)06:34.



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